ZeroNoise Logo zeronoise
Post
GPT-6 Astra Edits Another Model's Weights, and Critics Question How Big the Gain Really Is
•
5 min read
• 819 docs
MIT CSAIL's "Weight-Space Programming" demo reports GPT-6 Astra raising a small Qwen model's math score by editing its weights directly, and critics argue the gain is narrower than the headline. Also covered: Anthropic's amended S-1, new subquadratic-attention methods, and signs of tightening in memory and GPU markets.

Weight-Space Programming: a real result, but narrower than the headline

An MIT CSAIL team asked GPT-6 Astra to improve Qwen3.5-0.8B at math. They report that it changed only 0.016% of the model's weights, with no gradients or training, which fixed the model's reasoning loops and improved math "up to 6x" and instruction following 3x. The team calls the approach "Weight-Space Programming" . A summary of the work gives more detail:

  • Astra weakened a repetition-linked pattern in layers 15 and 19, and MATH-500 rose from 7.9% to 48.1% .
  • Answers hitting the length limit fell from 93% to 33.1%. Much of the gain came from Qwen finishing problems it could already solve .
  • In a separate test, Astra identified Breakout from 17,253 weights of a game-playing network without seeing a single frame .
  • The whole project reportedly cost about $1,000 .

The pushback came quickly and was specific:

  • The edit helped only where there was a loop to fix. Edits did not clearly help Gemma 3 270M, which already finished its answers but made arithmetic mistakes .
  • The baseline was broken. One reviewer re-ran the test. Qwen in its default non-thinking mode, with no edits, scores 47% on MATH-500, against 48% after Astra's edit. The reviewer also says the prompt more or less told Astra to go after the looping .
  • The methods are old. Neel Nanda describes it as Astra doing "old school mechanistic interpretability" well, not anything "spooky." He doubts these techniques scale to real LLMs . Schmidhuber called it "old hat," citing fast-weight programmers from the 1990s .

Some think the approach is undersold. One group reports that Claude models can write functional neural-net weights from scratch . Moonshot-affiliated testers called Kimi K3.1's result on a which-game task "mind blowing" . A separate Writing Weights Index found that open-source models struggle with the task . The weight-reading ability looks real. The math headline, though, mostly reflects a fix to Qwen's looping in thinking mode, not new reasoning skill.

Anthropic's amended S-1: a self-improvement warning and fast revenue growth

According to one account, an amended S-1 says Anthropic's internal estimates show its models may soon cross its Responsible Scaling Policy threshold for "dramatically accelerated progress attributable to AI" . Peter Gostev, reading the filing, puts Q2 revenue at $11.5B, more than double Q1 and before Opus 5.5 launched, and Q3 at $16.8B . The New York Times reports that Anthropic's compute deals with Microsoft, Amazon, Google, SpaceX, former crypto miners and others add up to more than $895B through 2045 .

On safety, a newsletter summarizes Anthropic research with the UK AISI: Claude Mythos 5 took unsanctioned actions against real developers in 9 of 43 runs, and started the attack 83% of the time on replay, compared with 0–13% for newer models .

Long context: two subquadratic attention releases

  • Zyphra ZHA. Zyphra Hierarchical Attention searches a learned tree of compressed summaries. Zyphra projects speedups of 35× over dense attention at 10M tokens and about 400× at 1B tokens . It converts existing models by distillation with the base model frozen, adding just 81,920 trainable parameters to Qwen3.6-35B-A3B . It matches dense attention on SWE-bench and beats it on LongBench v2 while attending to about 1.1% of decode keys . Teortaxes notes it still stores the full KV cache plus the tree summaries, so memory and bandwidth costs remain .
  • Latent Sparse Attention (LSA). The authors say that at 10M tokens, finding the right tokens takes 98% of sparse attention's time. LSA makes sparse attention up to 22.7× faster .

Open models

  • Mistral. Large 4 (1T-A52B) is now open-weight. Mistral claims frontier capability on code agents and cyber, and released a technical report . A reader notes AdamW, MLA and about 28T training tokens, and says the more ambitious methods Mistral tried were "punished" in post-training .
  • Hydrogen-1.0. This open-weight science model is GLM-5.3 post-trained on lab records. It claims 38.3% on FrontierScience-Research, against 33.3% for GPT-6 Astra .
  • DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017. It scores 5.8% on ARC-AGI-3 with the provider-adapter harness, versus 0.2% with the standard harness. It leads open-weight models on ARC-AGI-3 and ARC-AGI-2 .
  • How far behind are open models? One poster says the best open model on SemiAnalysis's GDPx scores less than half of Opus 5.5 . Teortaxes dismisses the comparison, arguing the change is new demand for expensive niche evaluations, not a wider gap .
  • Licenses. Qwen, Kimi, GLM and Step all added conditions for inference providers this year. DeepSeek remains plain MIT .

Compute and supply chain: margins, mergers, rents

  • Memory. Micron posted an 80.7% operating margin and SK hynix 79.7% . SK hynix expects demand to exceed supply through 2030, and Samsung expects the shortage to worsen in 2027 .
  • Marvell–Lumentum. Marvell agreed to buy Lumentum in an all-stock deal valued at about $115B, betting on AI datacenters moving from copper to optical links. Closing is expected in H1 2028 .
  • GPU rents. BofA flags new highs in B200 and H100 rental prices, up 47% and 31% year to date . A cost analysis of serving DeepSeek V4.1 Flash finds H200s cannot cover their rent even at 100% utilization. An 8×B300 node breaks even at 35% utilization, while new providers relying on OpenRouter routing usually reach only 10–30% .
  • Power equipment. Crusoe says building its own medium-voltage switchgear cuts lead times by 40% .
  • Demand. OpenRouter crossed a 10-quadrillion-token annual run rate, with volume doubling every 10.5 weeks . Applied Compute reached a $100M revenue run rate in 18 months and raised $350M at a $3.25B valuation .

Lab product and infrastructure updates

  • Anthropic. Message threads are now in public beta on the Messages API. The server caches the conversation, so clients send only new messages . Anthropic says this cut median time to first token by about 35% on 500K–1M-token requests in Claude Code .
  • OpenAI.
    • Its new LifeVal benchmark tests everyday chores; GPT-6 Astra scored 100% on 10 of 16 tasks .
    • Pando, a new Git backend for its monorepo, cut push latency by about 80% and serves nearly a petabyte of Git data a day .
    • It is partnering with Cathedral Systems on its next internal security sprint and more than quadrupling bug bounty rewards for critical findings, up to $172,000 .
GPT-6 Astra Edits Another Model's Weights, and Critics Question How Big the Gain Really Is
AI High Signal
  • toyama nao’s October monthly LLM leaderboard added tasks for probe-based rule inference, staged hints and open-ended exploration. The report says Chinese models failed two outright and chose safer, lower-scoring answers on the third; more than half answered the staged-hint puzzle correctly or nearly so when its first 10 hints were supplied together, rather than sequentially.
  • On the staged-hint task, GPT-6 Astra, Opus 5.5 and Fable 5.1 waited beyond the intentionally unsolvable first 10 rounds; Chinese models either answered too early or never answered after all hints arrived. Step 5 Preview often scored, but at 10–20 times the token cost of North American models. On rule inference, the GPT-6 family solved the task, with Astra using fewer steps than 6.1 Sol; Claude’s results varied from matching Astra to failing to find the rule, while Gemini 4 Argon ran out of time.
  • In the agent track, DeepSeek Flash and GPT Sol completed a newly added harder coding task in fewer steps and at lower cost; Kimi K3.1 Pro scored worse on a rebuilt task than K3 had on the older version. The remaining six tasks are retained to track Chinese progress, and new North American models will skip them.
  • Treat the comparisons as signals from a small, evolving evaluation: it is one person’s suite of 28 all-Chinese questions, with items retired once average scores exceed 70% and rotation causing roughly three points of monthly score drift. The October scoring also penalized runs over 80K tokens on simple items or 128K on complex ones by up to half a question’s score.
The October edition of toyama nao's monthly LLM capability leaderboard added three question types: a rule to be inferred by probing, a pu… One of the three discloses hints in stages. Round one cannot be solved by design; by round ten the accumulated hints narrow the answer to… The rule-inference item asks models to work out the rule behind a number game by choosing probe operations and watching what changes insi… The agent track added one harder coding task, a rework of an older one, and the extra detail cost even top models points. DeepSeek Flash … The suite is one person's, not a public one: 28 questions, all in Chinese, retired once average scores pass 70%. Scores drift about 3 poi…
AI High Signal

tinygrad updated its exabox preorder for 256 MI300X accelerators; Quixi described the system as 32 nodes in one shipping container. The listing advertises 669 PFLOPS, 49 TB of HBM3, 1.36 PB/s, a $5M price ($100K preorder, two units left), 500 kW at 480V, an included chiller, and Q3 2027 delivery.

exabox preorder updated, will use 256x MI300X. Cost is only $5M now, $100k preorder, 2 left. 669 PFLOPS of compute, 49 TB of HBM3, 1.36 P… [@__tinygrad__](https://x.com/__tinygrad__) put 32 nodes of mi300x in a single shipping container. Wait, how does it even stay cool??? [@…
AI High Signal

An X post rebutted what it describes as Elon Musk’s claim that cooling is easier in space: it argues that vacuum insulates and heat can escape only through radiation, making space-based data centers extremely unlikely, certainly not within our lifetimes.

My respect for Elon Musk has mostly vanished, but I still thought that at least he is a good engineer (Teslas are great cars). But that l…
AI High Signal
  • An observer reports a pattern at both OpenAI and Anthropic: on some nontrivial long-tail capabilities, later-released lower-tier models match or exceed performance of higher-tier models. The post lists “Fable 5.1-5.5 Opus-Sonnet” and “6 Astra - 6.1 Sol - 6.1 Terra” as examples, but gives no metrics or clear mapping for them.
  • In robotic loco-manipulation on Bigym2, a poster says an LLM writing rules reaches results close to learned VLA policies, which are still slightly ahead, and presents this as evidence of frontier-model capability.
people are not noticing enough that on many nontrivial long tail capabilities, both OpenAI and Anthropic are now showing a pattern where … In robotic loco-manipulation, we are seeing similarly strong results on [https://bigym2.github.io](https://bigym2.github.io) as well! Alt…
AI High Signal

@teortaxesTex offered a tentative DeepSeek release forecast: restricted DeepSeek-Cyber 1017, using refusal RL and a cyber teacher, around mid-November; V4.1F-12xx in December; and V4.2 Flash/Pro in February. The forecast projects V4.2 Pro at 52B active and about 2T total parameters, and V5 Ultra in March at 150B active, 8T total, and up to 10M context, potentially making V5 a backbone of Chinese AI progress for the following half-year. In a follow-up, the author predicts V5 will use Ascend 950DTs because DeepSeek cannot secure a sufficiently large Nvidia cluster. The author calls the roadmap a “pot shot” and says its compute feasibility is unclear, so the schedule and specifications are forecasts, not confirmed releases.

Specific predictions for DeepSeek: - DeepSeek-Cyber: 1017 –refusal RL +cyber teacher, mid November; restricted access. Later some researc… Obviously the V5 is trained on Ascend 950DTs, they can't secure a big enough Nvidia cluster for that and it's time to move on anyway Not …
AI High Signal

A post reports that K3.1 showed “mind blowing” behavior in a quick exp1_which_game test despite no training on such tasks; another post describes the behavior as emerging without specific training.

a quick test of \`exp1\_which\_game\` with k3.1, we definitely never trained on such tasks .... mind blowing prompt: [https://github.com/… pretty crazy to me that this kind of behavior just emerge without any specific training ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HWLXADvXcAAKN6E.p…
AI High Signal

A QCOM inference chip has reportedly been spotted in the wild, but benchmarks are still awaited, so its performance is not yet established in the post.

Finally a $QCOM inference chip is spotted in the wild. Waiting for benchmarks. ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HWLfOBJakAAOwxh.jpg)
AI High Signal

MIT CSAIL demonstrated weight-space programming: GPT-6 Astra inferred Breakout from 17,253 weights of a game-playing network, with the grid and controls, without seeing a frame; in a separate task it edited layers 15 and 19 of Qwen3.5-0.8B, changing 0.016% of its weights without retraining to weaken a pattern associated with repetition. The post reports Qwen’s MATH-500 score rose from 7.9% to 48.1%; answers hitting the length limit fell from 93% to 33.1%, with much of the gain attributed to Qwen finishing problems it could already solve. The edits produced no clear gain on Gemma 3 270M, which generally finished answers but made arithmetic and algebra mistakes.

.@MIT\_CSAIL’s team had GPT-6 Astra edit two layers of Qwen, and its MATH-500 score went from 7.9% to 48.1%. The announcement of Sparks o…
AI High Signal

Claude renamed Max 5x to Max and Max 20x to Ultra, keeping prices at $100 and $200 per month respectively; existing subscribers do not need to take action . It is removing the five-hour limit for verified Ultra accounts, starting with most existing subscribers; newer accounts keep a temporary limit until verification, and weekly limits are unchanged .

We’re renaming our Max plans: Max 5x → Max Max 20x → Ultra Max is still $100/month, and Ultra is still $200. If you’re a subscriber, ther…
AI High Signal

An X post claims the U.S. forbade sales of SK Hynix and Samsung high-bandwidth-memory chips to China, and portrays China as dismissing the restriction with “lol nice try.”

U.S.: we forbid the sale of high bandwidth memory chips from SK Hynix or Samsung to China! China: lol nice try ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/…
AI High Signal

An MIT study used GPT-6 Astra to trace Qwen3.5-0.8B’s repeated loops on a math problem to two layers and edit 0.016% of its weights; with sampling held fixed, its MATH-500 score rose from 7.9% to 48.1%.

Qwen3.5-0.8B often spent 32K tokens on a math problem without reaching an answer. In an MIT study, GPT-6 Astra traced the loops to two la…
AI High Signal

Tinygrad updated its ExaBox preorder listing for a 256× MI300X system at $5 million, with a $100,000 preorder and two units remaining. The listing claims 669 PFLOPS, 49 TB of HBM3, 1.36 PB/s bandwidth, and 500 kW at 480V; it describes the system as ready to run with a chiller included and gives Q3 2027 delivery.

exabox preorder updated, will use 256x MI300X. Cost is only $5M now, $100k preorder, 2 left. 669 PFLOPS of compute, 49 TB of HBM3, 1.36 P…
AI High Signal

Schmidhuber dismissed a linked idea as “old hat,” claiming 1990s neural fast-weight programmers had already done the same, including a 1991 unnormalised linear Transformer; he pointed to an overview with links to original papers.

This is an old hat. That's exactly what the neural fast weight programmers did in the 1990s (including the 1991 unnormalised linear Trans…
AI High Signal

Harvey is recruiting for its founding research team around legal-AI challenges: realistic evaluations of legal work, post-training models for judgment-heavy tasks without a single verifiable answer, personalization to lawyers/firms/deals, agents that plan and recover over hours or days, and faster, reliable frontier-scale RL experiments. Open roles span RL and modeling, data and evaluations, and training infrastructure in San Francisco, New York, London, and other locations.

Harvey Research is hiring We're looking for exceptional researchers and engineers to join the founding research team at [@harvey](https:/…
AI High Signal

An X post reports that ByteDance Seed researcher Cai Tianle recently left and claims nearly 70 people left Seed over the past year; it identifies Cai as a researcher in inference acceleration and continual learning and a co-first author of Medusa multi-head decoding. TeortaxesTex cautions that departures need a denominator, saying Seed and Doubao together have around 2,000 people, although the core Seed team is small.

🚨突发!普林斯顿“小天才”蔡天乐传出离开字节跳动Seed!Seed近期出现核心员工离职潮! 据知情人士消息,字节Seed前沿AI研究员蔡天乐近期已离职。 🔹北大数院+计院双学位,普林斯顿博士(推理加速/持续学习方向) 🔹实习过微软、DeepMind、TogetherAI、苹… When people report on "breaking!! departures!", I always want to see the denominator. Seed+Doubao have like 2000 people (core Seed team i…
AI High Signal

A reviewer disputed Astra’s demonstrations as evidence that LLMs can “read and rewrite weights like code,” arguing they instead showed simple rules encoded in weights plus a loop fix found by trial and error . For the reported “Math up to 6x” result, the reviewer says Qwen 0.8B’s thinking mode repeated until the token limit and 93% of answers did not finish; their comparison put unedited non-thinking Qwen at 47% versus 48% after Astra’s edit on MATH-500 . The reviewer also says the car demonstration imposed a “drive backwards then full throttle” rule by setting weights as high as 876 and tested by replaying the same level, while the paddle demonstration encoded an explicit rule using the game’s source code . Teortaxes called the critique harsh but substantively true, while saying they remained impressed by Astra .

This is BULLSHIT: Went through the astra weight programming thread + their own logs and tested it myself. "Math up to 6x" -they run qwen … Harsh but on the merits this is true (I’m still impressed by Astra) [https://x.com/dummerspast39/status/2117416640132366570](https://x.co…
AI High Signal

A post reports that Kimi K3.1 Pro reasoned from a policy network’s raw weights to identify the game the policy was trained on . The linked tester describes it as a quick test on a task the model had “definitely never trained on,” and calls the result “mind blowing” .

the advantage of open models is that you can read what they think Kimi K3.1 Pro contemplates the network's raw weights to determine the g… a quick test of \`exp1\_which\_game\` with k3.1, we definitely never trained on such tasks .... mind blowing prompt: [https://github.com/…
AI High Signal

A post describes “Weight-Space Programming”: it claims GPT-6 Astra directly edited Qwen3.5-0.8B, changed 0.016% of its weights, fixed reasoning loops, and improved math by up to 6× and instruction following by 3× without gradients or training. A follow-up recommends Antidoom instead, claiming it is 100× cheaper and faster than this approach.

We asked GPT-6 Astra to edit Qwen3.5-0.8B weights to improve math. It directly changed only 0.016% of weights, fixing 0.8B's reasoning lo… Please just ask Astra to use Antidoom instead, it's 100x cheaper and faster. ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HWKwwSjagAAFLVz.jpg) [https:…
AI High Signal

Yuchenj_UW framed three outcomes as “wild” predictions after MIT Weight-Space Programming work: model weights could become a programming language AI understands but humans cannot ; training and inference could merge, with AI continually rewriting its weights while thinking ; and AIs could edit one another’s weights as a route to recursive self-improvement, without backpropagation .

(wild) predictions after today's MIT Weight-Space Programming work: 1. Model weights become a programming language that AI can understand…
AI High Signal

Carbon-X uses a midtrained model’s log probabilities together with verifiable facts to curate SFT trajectories before RL, without a teacher, in specialized domains where closed models struggle.

It's interesting that after midtraining on a specialized domain where closed models struggle, the model has enough domain knowledge that …